Kelas Kamera #16: Financing your hobby

Oo… today leh.. Cikgu going to talk about something else laa..

You see, these photography stuff… while it may be fun… it is not actually cheap. When one is going into this hobby initially, he or she must be prepared to spend a substantial amount of money in order to get a basic start up kit for him or her to start shooting photos.

Well.. today Cikgu Mayat is going to give a few pointers, based on personal experiences, as well as from what I’ve observed over the years on how people finance their equipment lah….

(1) Never use ‘Evil Money’ to buy

Okay, what did I mean by Evil Money leh? Maybe this photo will go straight to the point:

credit-card

Woahahha~!

I know that almost of all you, are buying your camera stuff using credit cards. Well… to me, there is nothing wrong with buying using credit cards. In fact, sometimes when the items are thousands and thousands of Ringgit, it is EXTREMELY dangerous to carry that amount of cash to walk into a store.

So, credit card is useful only if you look at it from this point of view.

Bear in mind, most shops will charge an additional of 2-3% on the total price if you use credit card to pay. There is nothing much you can do about it but if you are good friends with the boss, you might get charged lesser. WOahahhaha

Now…. IF you use the credit card to pay for your precious DSLR and it’s accessories…. BUT you only pay the minimum amount every month the credit card statement comes… then you’re nothing but a fool.

stupid

This kind of purchase, is what I call it buying with ‘Evil Money‘. Spending your future income is an idiotic way of obtaining your material desires. It is sad to say that quite a lot of people go into this kind of credit card debt so easily, after a few years, they are easily in RM20-30k of debts. What for laaa…?

Never spend your future income!!

(2) You DON’T NEED to have everything

When you are picking up photography, you need to differentiate between what you NEED and what you WANT. A lot of people cannot tell which are the things they need and things they want.

For Cikgu, the things you definitely NEED are:

- A camera (DUH~!)

- A good wide angle lens (e.g. Kit Lens)

- An adequate support system a.k.a Tripod

- A drybox , and

- A flash unit (if you can afford it)

To me, that is all that you need for producing excellent images for many many years. Of course, now with digital photography you will need to do some simple (or extremely heavy) post processing so you’ll need a computer powerful enough to run PhotoShop or whatever software you want to.

I really do not understand those guys who buy multiple lenses which more or less do the same thing. I can understand the concept behind having multiple flashes if the photographer is into multiple flash lighting techniques though.

The worst are those who want to buy everything but once they get their hands on it, they never use it.

There are photographers, and there are people who like to talk about photography. Which group do you belong to?

Every time someone asks me whether they should get this lens or that flash or that body bla bla bla…. I will always ask the same question.. “Do you need it?”

For some, they can answer themselves and admit that they just want to buy it for shiok shiok saje..

well.. if you have money and don’t know what to do with it….. by all means go ahead. But if you’re just an average salary earner with bills to pay and debts to clear, then…..

stupid

WOAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

(3) Buy ORI (if you can)

Okay.. this one.. not all may agree with me but who cares? LOL

If you have a Nikon DSLR… please la… go buy Nikon lenses and stick with it

If you have a Canon… then go get a Canon lens…

I have nothing against 3rd party lenses like Tamron, Sigma, Tokina, Etc…. I do admit some of them produce very good results. My point here is that, since you are spending your hard earned money on something that costs several thousands… why not just go ahead and get the best there is? The primary reason people go for 3rd party is because they’re cheap… that’s all. Not the F/2.8 capability or what Vibration Reduction or whatever mumbo jumbo… no… that is just to cheat yourself and make you happy for a few weeks after your purchase.

Personally, I have bought and used several 3rd party lenses. Today, I have already sold off each and every one of them. None of them can give me consistent results. Some of them couldn’t even focus properly when I needed it to. The worst is, after a couple of years, the coating of the 3rd party lens slowly disappear!!

Now, with my original Nikon lenses, I never faced such issues.

(4) You don’t “invest” in photography unless you make money out of it

Some people very smart. To justify their expensive photography purchase to their wives/mother… they said they are “investing” into the equipment.

These people ah… don’t know whether they understand the term “invest” or not….

Investing by definition means putting in your money with the intention of making a return out from it.

So… if you are “investing” your money in your expensive photography gear, you must have some plan of getting back some Return on Investment (ROI). How to do that leh? Easy nia…. 99.999% newbies will say they will shoot wedding photos for people.

Some will have a plan of setting up a studio…. while some target commercial companies to sell their images.

Those are very good.. as long as you stick to your plan… and make a return as soon as possible.

NOW…

A LOT.. and i say … A LOT of people who go and shoot weddings… are actually quite…

stupid

How come?

Say for example a certain Mr Lambardo who just spent roughly RM4,000 on a medium range DSLR with a wide angle zoom kit lens plus a flash. He said he will go shoot wedding to make money…

One fine day, thanks to some recommendations from some aunties or what nots… Mr Lambardo was asked to shoot the wedding ceremony of some cousin aunty sister’s friend’s uncle’s mechanic son’s tuition teacher. However, because he’s new and inexperienced, he only charges RM200 for his services.

SO… if you do some simple calculation..

If Mr Lambardo charges RM200 *ONLY*  each and every time his ’services’ are needed, he will only Break Even after…

4,000  / 200 = 20 times

That… does not even include his petrol, toll, lodging, food incurred during the photo shoot. In addition, he might even need to apply annual leave from work or sacrifice his weekends just to achieve that.

Now.. the biggest mistake a newbie would do is… after getting .. say… 2 jobs worth Rm200… they feel like they’re damn pro already. So… the “pro” label must be accompanied by better equipment. So off goes the RM400 into upgrading to a better lens or flash or camera body. This goes on and on and after a few years, they would’ve already spent tens of thousands on equipments alone.. but still charging less than RM1k for their services.

Where’s the investment????

It is a different story.. if you have the mindset of buying the equipment.. as a hobby. This is actually what I’m doing now… I don’t care about how much I can earn from the hobby… I only care about getting nice images for myself and my family which I can treasure for many years to come. If someone needs my services, even if I shoot for free also i won’t feel a thing because in my head , making money out from the hobby never crossed my mind.

The only caveat is… I need to know you pretty well to be able to shoot for FREE for you. LOL… else… you go find those RM200 photographers la.. they are “Investors”

(5) Save up

This has got to be the most basic advice any parent can give.

If you want something so badly… even though it’s rather a useless thing…

as long as you like it.. and you think you will enjoy it a lot… who cares what other people say?? Just buy it!

These photography stuff are not cheap… in fact, some of them are so expensive costing tens of thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousand. If you want them so badly.. .then save up for it!

I find it very appalling that an average salaried worker cannot even put aside one or two hundred a month aside for savings. What comes in.. goes out immediately. How stupid is that.

As discussed about in (1), never use credit card to buy then slowly pay off… even though it has the 0% installment facility. It sucks to pay off something for several months. I’ve been there, I know the feeling.

If the camera you want to buy costs Rm3,000… then put aside RM200 every month.. by 1.5 years… you already have the money to buy it already. Hey, you do get a bonus at the end of the year… no? You might get the buy the equipment sooner than you think ;)

The key word is…. DISCIPLINE

Some tried but only manage to save the money for 2 months.

Some talk very pandai but couldn’t even save for the 1 month.

Talk a lot but no action… you only have yourself to blame for getting into deeper and deeper debt.

Okay laa… Enough talk already. I manage to type so long because I am on annual leave enjoying my time off and UltraBen is with the babysitter now. Woahahha… time for Cikgu to go sleep liao…

See ya!

18 Responses to “ Kelas Kamera #16: Financing your hobby ”

  1. Faiz Perut Says:

    Hahaha…TERBAIKK!!!
    In fact, it took me 2 month just to save enough money to buy 2nd hand flash.
    Ini hobby mmg syiokk wooo but damn expensive.

  2. Loctor Mayat Says:

    Faiz,

    Even though it is 2 months wait.. and 2nd hand… but you saved for it without using Evil Money to buy. GOOD JOB

  3. rook_1e Says:

    Nice advice Loctor! and I agree its not a cheap hobby. got to save up..

  4. Loctor Mayat Says:

    rook_1e,

    Yes..I always said before. it’s not a cheap hobby.. so make sure the money you spend is worth it.. and you’re happy with it…

  5. nyrac Says:

    really good advice. paling tak tahan when i see noobs talking about buying lenses and flashy flashes when they’ve just got their first dslr weeks ago. i’m not even a photographer myself. i got too many of those around me to put me off taking up photography as a hobby. i am sticking to books and music. which can be quite expensive too. but yeah good advice.

  6. meekoloksedap Says:

    I agree also… I’m saving for as long as 9 month now to get a 2nd hand D300… Luckily didn’t die along the way (lolz)… hope everything will be alright. :) I enjoy photography as a hobby and I always go shoot events and do walkabouts.

  7. Jason O Says:

    Good point made about the so called “wedding photographers”. I do think that many people who “ventured” into amateur wedding photography, if there’s anything called amateur wedding photography, undercharge their clients. If you do your business calculations correct, there’s no point charging a couple of hundreds of ringgit for a shoot. Heck even if I use a toy camera, I’d charge higher than that. Pros are not pros because they have pro equipment, they are called pros because they know how to make money out of their services.

  8. Mr Penang Road Says:

    Hi Mr Mayat,

    I’m quite interested with your camera class sessions. very useful infomation. why not if you publish all your dslr lessons into a book. so that you can generate more side income, then after you getting rich, you can treat me a line clear nasi kandar..:)

  9. Loctor Mayat Says:

    Mr PG Road,

    That’s a splendid idea. Hahaha…

    but… how to contact a publisher ah? :D

  10. meekoloksedap Says:

    Got an idea for the title also…

    got see book title “Photography for Dummies”…

    so may be u can publish urs as “photography for kiamsiap people”…

    haha…

    like ur class so much..

  11. Neo Says:

    Very good advices Loctor! You reminded me about some of my friends who have 4-6 lenses when they are only student like me and busy with all the studying like me. Ouh, and i highly agree with advice #5, it feels great to buy something that you really want by your very own money from the savings that you earn little by little with discipline.

  12. Mr Penang Road Says:

    mr mayat, i think you just need to find a suitable author in the school of fine arts USM. Those people who are working as a lecturer really need to make as many as publications for their promotion. so that you can look for those lecturers who are interested with your art works & later become the co-author & the university will publish your book. its free and you dont need to pay for it.

  13. Dee Says:

    Great advice loctor… :)

  14. tyz Says:

    now i feel stupid…..
    must learn simple things before the complicated stuff !!

    thank you, teacher !!!

  15. frostier Says:

    LOL! Bagus!

  16. ShaolinTiger Says:

    Agree with the doc, I don’t even have any of those evil money plastic stupid dispensers..so I’m safe :D

  17. Faizal Says:

    thats true…i feel you…i too was a sucker…i started off with a simple d70s and kit lens…after a while…i started to compare my pics with others…why was mine sucky…dang he got the 70-200f2.8…no wonder im using 70-300 f3.5-f5.6….off i went looking for one…

    then i notice kit lens not good enuff and my brand spanking new 70-200 can do wild close shot…dang he got a wide angle lens…no wonder….off i went looking for one…12-24 f4

    then my new fren who’s into nature showed some picture of his grasshopper with gaban eyes…dang…i tried it and cannot get the boxy eye….hmph…no wonder…he’s using a macro lens…off i went looking for one…105mm

    then i started to cover the company’s football event…dang my shots all sucked….no action prized shot…no wonder…d70s so slow fps…off i went to get a used d2x just for fast action…

    dang why my picture very noisy compared to that fella…ouh d2x sucks at iso above 600…no wonder…off i went to go look for d90….got video…very good…

    then i started to fiddle in automotive photography…dang why so white and background so dark…no wonder…front forward flash no good….off i went looking for 3 more sb’s and wft…

    i started as a noob using d70s…i ended spending a close to rm20k in 9months…with a back ache lugging my backpack of 2 body,5 lenses,4 flashes,1 monopod,3 minipod,laptop,a couple of battery pack,some filters…as a hobby not as ‘investment’….hahahahaha siao weh…

    my son came…saw the light that ive been going overboard…sold everything…give my son a better future….hahahahah…now using the old trusty d70s again…

  18. reaganchen Says:

    hi Faizal,

    i was like you too. See people having better shots and then… OH… they got good lens… so i go buy also… but then i stopped after buying 3 lenses and luckily all not as expensive as yours… :)
    not using evil money as Loctor said but still, its somewhat evil to buy and have the lens sitting in the drybox…
    sold some and bought cheaper ones that I use… at the end of the day, its just a hobby and im satisfied with what i get :)

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